Notes for lecture 16 - May 20

 

 

  1. Norton -
  2. theme for the day - places and values that we wish to pass on as part of our culture
  3. Walk 4 - present some of your great places

 

1. Discuss Norton:

Norton

a. notes from previous sections of Chapter 8 - that you didn't read

intergenerational ethics - how do we think about and prioritize our contributions to the future

the idea of a "bequest" of mixed goods to the future or a "trust" for future generations

do we measure welfare or stuff: economistic or ecological

weak sustainability - measure welfare and all capital is interconvertable to improve welfare

strong sustainability - preserve some categories of stuff, natural capital

could have a hybrid - measure the value of the stuff (ecosystem services)

strong ecological sustainability and "normative sustainability"

"specifying social and communal values as guiding a community toward protection of ecologically measured features"

more than just preserving ecosystems - setting up society to preserve ecosystems

"Grand Simplification" "since we do not know what people in the future will need - and since resources are substitutable for each other - the only thing we can do is to meaures and compare welfare across time." - i.e. increase capital of any forms

GS is and oversimplification

  • not just one simple problem but a cluster interrelated problems
  • intergenerational tradeoffs
  • how far into the future are we responsible (1 generation, multiple,...)
  • ignorance,
  • types of problems

Nature protection

not just saving stuff

projecting their values into the future

shrines to our culture <!-- see below -->

 

 

b. section 8.6

 

communities need to declare what they will do

such speech is a performative act

what the community is willing to do

measurement follows moral commitment

3 boundaries

decision horizon

uncertainty

what can be lost in the process, what is acceptable to lose

ask communities to describe what can be saved

freedom to choose what can and can't be saved (refer to Sen)

 

b. Section 8.7 Safe Minimum Standard

like the precautionary principle

perserve resources if cost is bearable

seemingly not very stringent

discuss the decision square on page 351

 

c. Section 10.5

1 - community procedural values

2 - weak sustainability (economic)

3 - risk avoidance

4 - community-identity or sense-of-place

place-based, constitutive

see notes -

 

2. Theme

Claim: There are places that we should pass on to future generations because they are valuable and we feel these locations will help teach them our values.

Sacred Groves -

There seems to be only one constant moral statement throughout history, sacred spaces.

preserved through multiple religions

have a value to current society that they couldn't have predicted (buffer and biodiversity)

lead in to Walk 4

 

3. Walk 4 - some examples

 


 

4. Presentations

schedule

Tue June 1

Thur June 3